Prabhupāda: So why he's claiming his money? Eh?
Pañcadraviḍa: He says, "Because I work for it."
Prabhupāda: That's all right. But money, what is the standard of money? First of all, just discuss this. What is the standard of money throughout the whole world?
Devotee (1): Work, labor, labor.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Devotee (1): Labor.
Pañcadraviḍa: Purchases...
Prabhupāda: Gold. So have you created gold? How is your money? The gold is already there. You have stolen. You are thief. You are not laborer, but you are rascal, thief. You'll be punished for this policy. Is gold your property?
Devotee (1): But they say that if the whole world follows our example, then the society will be finished.
Prabhupāda: Nobody follows. We do not follow... There are so many... Why they are struggle? Why they struggle? Why do you fight? Because you are all thieves—you want to steal God's gold-therefore you fight. Why do you fight? Why you declare war from one nation to another? Because you are all thieves and you want to steal God's gold. Therefore there is fight. Why do you claim, "This is America, my land"? Is it your land? Have your forefathers created this? Why you falsely claim like that? What is the answer? You have stolen from another party, Red Indians, and you are now claiming, "We are the proprietor." You are thieves. You are not even gentlemen. What do you think?
Pañcadraviḍa: But they say... They say, "God is up in heaven. What does He need with gold?"
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Pañcadraviḍa: They say, "God is up in heaven. What does He need with gold?"
Prabhupāda: "God is up in heaven"? What is that?
Pañcadraviḍa: Well, they say God...
Prabhupāda: Because the master is in heaven, or in some other place, therefore we shall steal?
Tripurāri: They say, "God gave us the land to do what we want with."
Prabhupāda: No. God did not give you the land. How do you think it is given to you?
Tripurāri: They say, "God put us here..."
Prabhupāda: God... God has given to every living entity. You can say like that. Just like father. Father gives to all sons, not that a particular son. Why do you claim? Why do you slaughter the cows? They have got right. So, so many faults there are. But they are not reasonable. That is the...
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: They quote a verse from the Bible where it says that God has given man control over everything on this earth.
Prabhupāda: That control does not mean "The government is in control, therefore government should kill only." These... All rascals, simply rascals. Control, that's all right. You are grown-up boys, human beings, so you should control. You should maintain them, and take service from them, not that you shall kill them. They interpret in that "Because under my control, therefore I shall kill"?
Devotees: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Just see how foolish they are.
Jayatīrtha: The children are under the control of the parents, but the parents don't kill the children.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Morning Walk -- April 1, 1975, Māyāpur
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